tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post1443189828971582300..comments2024-03-13T04:04:32.568-07:00Comments on Sku's Recent Eats: The New Generation of Rye: Bulleit Ryeskuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-9903139855237570432012-06-27T09:56:24.462-07:002012-06-27T09:56:24.462-07:00Sam, I first read it here:
http://chuckcowdery.bl...Sam, I first read it here:<br /><br />http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-rye-whiskey-epiphany.html<br /><br />In that article Chuck states that it was created for Seagram's 7. I've read elsewhere that LDI, or the former LDI, still sold the rye to Diageo after they acquired the Seagram's label. If true, it could be in a ton of Canadian whiskeys.BMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05036354965069864586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-11699994338429094772012-06-26T18:57:14.905-07:002012-06-26T18:57:14.905-07:00From what I understand (and maybe Sam K. will comm...From what I understand (and maybe Sam K. will comment as he's the expert on this), the classic PA rye was a blend of malted and unmalted rye. By the twentieth century, it was unmalted rye with a small amount of malted barley, so really the LDI mashbill is quite similar.<br /><br />Rittenhouse was formerly a PA rye, but now it is, of course, owned by Heaven Hill. I don't know that they have said for certain but I believe all of the KY ryes are around 51% rye with the rest corn and a bit of barley.skuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-20136166033353150872012-06-26T17:04:52.968-07:002012-06-26T17:04:52.968-07:00Does anyone have any idea what the mashbill for Ri...Does anyone have any idea what the mashbill for Rittenhouse is? What exactly is the "classic Pennsylvania style" rye that I see so many people refer to when speaking of rittenhouse? How does that style compare with Kentucky and LDI?sevensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-32085238756075497542012-06-24T21:37:58.014-07:002012-06-24T21:37:58.014-07:00BMc,
What sort of whiskey do you think that :LDI ...BMc,<br /><br />What sort of whiskey do you think that :LDI rye was to be blended into?<br /><br />Samsam knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-62812665061076946662012-06-24T01:43:38.042-07:002012-06-24T01:43:38.042-07:00KBD has a 6 Year Willett Rye at 110 proof and it i...KBD has a 6 Year Willett Rye at 110 proof and it is out of this world! If you get some fellers together, I could make a run down there for ya on the weekend before work. If it's not already sold out.Jason Beattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-90031396077892493902012-06-23T10:23:03.087-07:002012-06-23T10:23:03.087-07:00BMc, the limited release High West 12 year old was...BMc, the limited release High West 12 year old was a 12 year LDI 95% rye and it was superb. The rye was as strong as ever. That stuff has staying power.skuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-42587044472839807622012-06-23T10:19:55.491-07:002012-06-23T10:19:55.491-07:00It should be noted that the LDI recipe was designe...It should be noted that the LDI recipe was designed for blending. I love the Willetts and like the Bulleit rye quite a bit, but it's amusing that the big gap in the rye world is being filled by a watered down blending whiskey. It just happens to be world class, in my opinion. <br /><br />The butterscotch notes in the 5 year Willett are reaaaaally nice. I'd love to have a 10-12 year LDI product to see what happens to all those forceful rye flavors over time, mixed with barrel influence.BMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05036354965069864586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-64085673199847257022012-06-23T08:33:59.584-07:002012-06-23T08:33:59.584-07:00That's right. The main difference is mashbill...That's right. The main difference is mashbill. The Kentucky ryes are, for the most part, 51% rye, the rest corn, making the mashbill very similar to bourbon. LDI has several mashbills, but the 95% rye has far more rye and no corn, giving it a much spicier disposition.skuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-70175591127224810882012-06-23T02:13:16.437-07:002012-06-23T02:13:16.437-07:00Rye whiskey must be made from a mash of at least 5...Rye whiskey must be made from a mash of at least 51% rye. Far from the 95% mash used by LDI/MGP in this particular product. One of the reasons I prefer Rittenhouse over Willett, though I drink both. You can definitely notice the difference and influence on the final product in the quantity of rye used.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-87893678910248399422012-06-22T08:24:14.962-07:002012-06-22T08:24:14.962-07:00why do LDI ryes differ so much from Kentucky ryes?...why do LDI ryes differ so much from Kentucky ryes? is it this particular 95% rye mashbill or does the difference stem from distillation/aging differences?sevensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-86814564824296993032012-06-22T01:08:01.384-07:002012-06-22T01:08:01.384-07:00http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2011/10/mgp-acqui...http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2011/10/mgp-acquires-ldi-distillery.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-2924543924890097012012-06-22T01:04:20.592-07:002012-06-22T01:04:20.592-07:00Thanks. Will stock up on any Willett and such now...Thanks. Will stock up on any Willett and such now, don't really drink that much of it, with what is in the distribution chain and will see how things with LDI/MGP products shake out down the road. Good information to know. May not mean any changes, however, one never knows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-68320446811179805762012-06-22T00:30:29.555-07:002012-06-22T00:30:29.555-07:00It's no longer LDI. I have inside enough that...It's no longer LDI. I have inside enough that I swore not to tell as I live nearby. All I can say is my personal buying... I will make sure to buy only pre-Midwest Grain whiskey as I focus strictly on quality and make up a very small percentage of the buying market.Jason Beattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-82310278005368894752012-06-21T11:39:50.844-07:002012-06-21T11:39:50.844-07:00Good point, SteveBM. When you try to go to the ol...Good point, SteveBM. When you try to go to the old LDI web site it routes you to the new MGP site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-49684270362219659182012-06-21T09:49:33.599-07:002012-06-21T09:49:33.599-07:00Just had a few Bulliet ryes in the SkyClub at ATL ...Just had a few Bulliet ryes in the SkyClub at ATL yesterday. I'm not too fond of Bulliet bourbon but the rye has some characteristics that I like, grainy, floral, pleasant spice to name a few. I like your "piney" description too. It's usually $25 down here in the Miami area. Not bad. I tend to enjoy LDI bottlings, namely Redemption Rye and the Williet 3yr & 5yr.<br /><br />Question - when Midwest Grain purchased LDI, did they keep the name LDI intact? Or should we all be referring to this producer as MGP?SteveBMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203167407546384904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-27021950389115984972012-06-20T23:09:32.399-07:002012-06-20T23:09:32.399-07:00A big second on what Tom said. Once you get up aro...A big second on what Tom said. Once you get up around $30, it's worth paying the extra couple of dollars for Jefferson 10 Year. It blows every rye I've tried short of the BTAC ryes out of the water and it's less than half the price of those whiskies (when you can actually find them).Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06448702693643593156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-53020551688424199642012-06-20T22:23:15.981-07:002012-06-20T22:23:15.981-07:00In regards to value, I agree that this is a solid ...In regards to value, I agree that this is a solid base whiskey, particularly for cocktails. I usually end up spending a little more (35ish) and get jefferson's 10 year, which has a great rye flavor with a fantastic sweeter influence from the extra age. I'm not sure how well circulated this release is though.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-8870070064202811052012-06-20T21:47:41.167-07:002012-06-20T21:47:41.167-07:00Though they are both likely from the same LDI mash...Though they are both likely from the same LDI mash bill, I prefer the Willett 3 YR Single Barrel rye over Bulleit in the ryes that I can actually get these days. Rye product has definitely been in short supply. Willett also comes in at a higher alcohol content for only a couple dollars more in this area. Like Jordan, Bulleit definitely does not sell for $20 in FL and is more like $28. Rittenhouse is still my preferred when I can get it. Have to rely on friends on family to bring it south.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-25849215368575795752012-06-20T20:40:07.827-07:002012-06-20T20:40:07.827-07:00I had a rather healthy glass of Bulleit rye yester...I had a rather healthy glass of Bulleit rye yesterday evening and I have to agree with your assessment. It's definitely rye, but little else stands out about it. I guess more options are better, but given that the Rittenhouse shortage seems to be waning, Bulleit rye is in a tough place. It doesn't have as much character, but it can't compete on price. Especially here in Oregon where it's regularly $28, which is Sazerac and Russell's Reserve territory.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06448702693643593156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-45129484914212132452012-06-20T20:01:37.273-07:002012-06-20T20:01:37.273-07:00This whiskey has generated more conversation than ...This whiskey has generated more conversation than any I've ever passed around. I like it quite a bit, and with WT 101 disappearing, it will probably become my go-to rye for the foreseeable future. Tom Bulleit claims that there'll be no shortages associated with this bottling. Good news.sam knoreply@blogger.com