tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post7093169889878734539..comments2024-03-13T04:04:32.568-07:00Comments on Sku's Recent Eats: What's in a Box?skuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-26467905881106949432013-10-13T13:09:23.290-07:002013-10-13T13:09:23.290-07:00David, he is probably one of RP's disciples.David, he is probably one of RP's disciples.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-64918941485161157222013-10-12T16:45:12.545-07:002013-10-12T16:45:12.545-07:00I hope you suggested he read Bourbon Truth (which ...I hope you suggested he read Bourbon Truth (which I quite enjoy -- thanks for the tip, Sku)!Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-37931688706094305802013-10-12T16:20:24.099-07:002013-10-12T16:20:24.099-07:00Matt - Actually that post was inspired by a guy wh...Matt - Actually that post was inspired by a guy who sent me an angry three-page email about how my improper use of grammar, and my unwillingness to correct it, insulted him on a personal level. He's not sure if he wants to continue shopping with us as a result. It's one of the most amazing emails I have ever received.David Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-25618999824782140432013-10-12T14:15:56.982-07:002013-10-12T14:15:56.982-07:00That's interesting, Sku. I throw-out the whis...That's interesting, Sku. I throw-out the whiskey and keep the boxes. I also boycott hotels and airports with vending equipment that scuffs the labels of my Sierra Mist. And don't get me started on any McDonald's that has ever tried to rip my family off by handing my child a "Happy Meal" in a bag. It's all about customer service. If you don't have the boxes, then don't pretend to be selling my child a Happy Meal. I will not pay the full Happy Meal price without the pristine Happy Meal box, and I will never patronize their franchise again unless they offer me a groveling apology and generous discount. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-33748231410792189122013-10-12T11:02:24.491-07:002013-10-12T11:02:24.491-07:00Looks like someone in this thread inspired their o...Looks like someone in this thread inspired their own K&L spirits blog post!Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-309781294678827172013-10-10T21:33:35.086-07:002013-10-10T21:33:35.086-07:00Agreed on the K&L front. David has put in orde...Agreed on the K&L front. David has put in orders for me via email at 1 AM. The guy is a customer service machine who apparently doesn't sleep.Seth Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-2337948935534989252013-10-10T20:28:45.282-07:002013-10-10T20:28:45.282-07:00"Sku's Recent Eats: Bringing People Toget..."Sku's Recent Eats: Bringing People Together, One Post At A Time"My Annoying Opinionshttp://www.myannoyingopinions.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-56339571614733692682013-10-10T20:26:49.389-07:002013-10-10T20:26:49.389-07:00Alright folks, let's please not devolve into p...Alright folks, let's please not devolve into personal attacks. Thank you.skuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-31655682733360489352013-10-10T19:50:37.197-07:002013-10-10T19:50:37.197-07:00sam k, either you lie and did not "entirely q...sam k, either you lie and did not "entirely quit reading StraightBourbon" or you are yammering on about something you never bothered to read and have no idea about. Which is it?<br /><br />Speaking of endlessly quoting the same thing, should I sign off with "where the rubber meets the road" or some other tired cliche while promoting my own self-centeredness by trying to impress internet strangers with my plans?LostBottlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-56585469759794121392013-10-10T18:10:59.198-07:002013-10-10T18:10:59.198-07:00This kind of self-centered drivel is why I've ...This kind of self-centered drivel is why I've totally quit reading StraightBourbon and BourbonEnthusiast.<br /><br />It's the same 15 guys spouting off endlessly just to hear themselves talk about whiskey, encapsulating previous quotes endlessly. I couldn't care less about them or the damn packaging.<br /><br />David Driscoll and Sku are voices of reason, and I'm more than happy to listen to what they and their readers (OK, at least Sku's) have to say.<br /><br />Tomorrow I'm headed to WhiskyFest New York...where the rubber meets the road!sam knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-36635129132401968752013-10-10T17:53:47.918-07:002013-10-10T17:53:47.918-07:00I think David D. responds to more than enough cust...I think David D. responds to more than enough customer emails, and I don't think his blog post takes away from that.<br /><br />If K&L doesn't receive boxes in good condition then it's not their fault. If this were a commodity not in hot demand, the liquor stores could try to refuse damaged goods. But what are you going to do when you get a limited allocation of what your customers want, refuse the shipment (if it's even allowed by law)?<br /><br />On the other hand, I do like the boxes while I still have the bottles, especially before I have opened them. They are good for protecting the bottle, including from light, and some of them are nice. If I want to display my bottles on a shelf, it's nice to have a mix of boxed and unboxed bottles--not because I fetishize packaging, but because I like to display my "toys" that are one of the interests in my life. Some boxes are nicer than just having a bunch of bottles lined up--one only needs to look at the display case photos on message boards to see examples.<br /><br />However, I am referring to cheap cardboard tubes and boxes. Over-the-top packaging is unnecessary. There is an unlimited number of designs that can be printed and embossed, and that is enough for me.<br /><br />By the way, there is absolutely no way a standard box or tube costs 5 GBP in the volumes they buy, regardless of how much of a discount they gave you.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-41569958019556992752013-10-10T17:53:46.282-07:002013-10-10T17:53:46.282-07:00@LostBottle, I don't find that the article com...@LostBottle, I don't find that the article complains about customers at all. If anything, it sounds like Driscoll is trying to get people their boxes and that's creating an entirely new set of issues. He's more frustrated that the packaging exists because he can't control its condition. The whole article is anti-packaging, not anti-customer. I think you need to chill out a bit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-76967556109338555792013-10-10T17:26:24.980-07:002013-10-10T17:26:24.980-07:00If the K&L blog allowed comments it would be t...If the K&L blog allowed comments it would be troll city. Smart move on their part. You can't write articles like that and expect level-headed responses.Seth Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-50491331684862340232013-10-10T17:22:02.621-07:002013-10-10T17:22:02.621-07:00LostBottle - I've shopped at K&L for five ...LostBottle - I've shopped at K&L for five years and, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying, that David Driscoll is one of the most customer-serviced salesmen I have ever met. When I briefly moved out of state he personally took all my whisky to the post office and shipped it himself (since K&L couldn't do it). I've never had a store go to the lengths to keep my business like K&L has done. I think maybe if you'd actually shopped with them you'd know that already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-60053785156179954152013-10-10T17:18:18.012-07:002013-10-10T17:18:18.012-07:00By all means please stop discouraging people from ...By all means please stop discouraging people from believing there is a premium value to boxes. I'm hoping to retire early and live off my thin Karuizawa cardboard for a few years.<br /><br />If that fails, I guess I could live in it.'BearToenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-83943266676843591852013-10-10T17:09:38.547-07:002013-10-10T17:09:38.547-07:00"My suggestion for retailers is to focus a bi..."My suggestion for retailers is to focus a bit more on being customer service oriented and a little less on being pseudo-celebrity bloggers"<br /><br />You see Steve, eventually the real problem always reveals itself. David Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-4876380279794430262013-10-10T16:53:40.113-07:002013-10-10T16:53:40.113-07:00Perhaps the reaction is less about the packaging a...Perhaps the reaction is less about the packaging and more about the attitude of a certain retailer who takes to their closed-comments blog to complain about customers (you know, the people who pay for things and that you are supposed to provide customer service to) who purchase expensive whisky and have the nerve to be picky. My suggestion for retailers is to focus a bit more on being customer service oriented and a little less on being pseudo-celebrity bloggers. Just think, in the time it took to pen that little entry, an additional 40 emails could have been sent to customers to try and make them happy, rather than voicing your frustration at the people who pay your salary.LostBottlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-15342636331656006362013-10-10T14:29:11.073-07:002013-10-10T14:29:11.073-07:00I don't worry about blemishes in the packaging...I don't worry about blemishes in the packaging unless it's going to be a gift.<br /><br />Retailers--Driscoll--I'd be interested to know, though, if there are any types of damage short of breakage that suggest the booze has been mishandled.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-47608318772099228392013-10-10T11:41:52.912-07:002013-10-10T11:41:52.912-07:00The last Wild Turkey 14 Tradition is textbook exam...The last Wild Turkey 14 Tradition is textbook example of everything annoying about whiskey packaging. Excessive cost for a bunch of garish crap. Just sell the booze in a bottle, I don't care if it's just a screw cap bottle, and leave the faux pewter and mahogany to Ron Burgundy's study.<br /><br />RNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-80541849385420332562013-10-10T11:39:34.811-07:002013-10-10T11:39:34.811-07:00Unfortunately, this all goes to the central reason...Unfortunately, this all goes to the central reason why a consumer buys what that consumer buys. Sure, if you are buying a bottle of Fighting Cock whiskey, for $16.00, you probably are buying it to drink till gone, and then you buy some more. But, as used as an example, you are paying $400.00 for a bottle of whiskey, you are probably buying it for the image (or the image of having great taste). And that is the problem. When image - or investment - is the driving factor, the presentation is as equally important as the liquid inside. This is similar to the fountain pen craze, when someone plunks down thousands of dollars for a limited edition Mont Blanc, and does not even open the package, will have the contents x-rayed and the negative kept, in order to show that there is in fact a pen inside, and the whole thing kept for future resale. A wide range of reasons for the purchase exists. So, one should not be surprised when it all comes to a point of complications, anger and hurt feelings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-47978130214435313572013-10-10T11:34:36.064-07:002013-10-10T11:34:36.064-07:00Don't sleep on the usability of whisky boxes. ...Don't sleep on the usability of whisky boxes. We couldn't afford to build a shed in our yard but now my Glenfiddich Snow Phoenix tin holds our firewood and lawnmower. And our children sleep in my Amrut Intermediate Sherry box. Really, these things pay for themselves and then some.My Annoying Opinionshttp://www.myannoyingopinions.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-21323914209194265352013-10-10T11:25:08.753-07:002013-10-10T11:25:08.753-07:00Oh yeah, those are the case boxes. Oh yeah, those are the case boxes. skuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-87954059325536814982013-10-10T11:19:28.452-07:002013-10-10T11:19:28.452-07:00When I bought both bottles of stagg, the manger as...When I bought both bottles of stagg, the manger asked if I wanted the box they came in. It was a a retangular, 3 bottle box. It was cool looking for a carboard box with the stagg logo on it, but I had no use for it other than to store my son's lincoln logs. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-2849389403614970982013-10-10T10:23:37.405-07:002013-10-10T10:23:37.405-07:00whoops, I meant bottle, not box. Who keeps the box...whoops, I meant bottle, not box. Who keeps the box?!?! Even the best ones are boring, compared to the bottles inside.BMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05036354965069864586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9082156144028140004.post-3877892226983728342013-10-10T10:21:15.643-07:002013-10-10T10:21:15.643-07:00I keep the ugly boxes. The Old Rip van Winkle 10 y...I keep the ugly boxes. The Old Rip van Winkle 10 year is plug ugly, for instance. I'd love to get my hands on the infamous Butt Ugly Bottle that Elmer T Lee used to come in when it was higher proof.BMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05036354965069864586noreply@blogger.com